Friday, October 12, 2007

Downtown Apartheid, Intimidation, and the NAACP

"No matter how complex the reasons that have brought us to the point at which we stand, we have, it seems, been traveling a long way to a place of ultimate surrender that does not look very different from the place where some of us began."


These days when I see or hear from Dot Scott and the Rev. Darby of Charleston's NAACP, parts of Jonathan Kozol's latest book, Shame of a Nation, about the new apartheid in America's schools, begin to circulate in my head. Kozol cogently points out that, in many cities besides small ones like Charleston, local leadership has made its "deal with the devil" and settled for segregated but equal schools--shades of Plessy versus Ferguson! How else to explain Scott's defense of a system that over the last 30 years has left all downtown schools de facto segregated?


Now, once again Scott, Darby, and every other African-American leader they can cozen or coerce onto their team are in full cry against the new downtown charter school, in the process threatening local black leaders to get on board and claiming it's all a plot by Arthur Ravenel, Jr. They will accept all-black schools on the penninsula but not integrated ones.



When confronted with the charter school's racially-diverse leadership and state laws regarding the make-up of charter schools, the NAACP response is "don't confuse us with the facts." In fact, certain leaders, including Hillery Douglas and Ruth Jordan, CCSD board members who claimed support of the charter school at the CCSD meeting when it was approved, have now been caught twisting the arms of black leaders who SUPPORT the charter school. Presumably the intent is to cull charter school support of its black members so that the NAACP can then cry, "Aha! See, it's a plot to bring segregation back to downtown Charleston!"


Bring it back? Is that a joke? Please step into a classroom at Fraser, Charleston Progressive, or Burke--actually, you can name the school; just leave Buist out.



How far have they drifted from the desires of Martin Luther King, Jr., when CCSD board members "ambush" legitimate neighborhood leaders announcing support of the charter school?



According to at least one person present at the following event taking place downtown, sometime prior to Tuesday, October 9:

For the purpose of forcing a downtown African-American community leader to recant his support for the Charter School for Math and Science, CCSD board member Hillery Douglas set up a meeting with Pete Lawrence. The private meeting amounted to an ambush and attempted mugging. It failed to sway the intended victim and may have in fact caused him and other downtown black residents to become more ardent supporters of charter school alternatives as a way to get existing schools back on track.

Arthur Peter Lawrence is a Burke High School graduate, a co-founder of the Friends of Burke organization, President of the Westside Neighborhood Association and a recipient of the City of Charleston's Koon Award for his record of community service. He is actively supporting another African-American, Dudley Gregorie, in his campaign for Mayor of Charleston. After much soul- searching and seeking answers to many questions, Pete recently came out in support of the proposed Charleston Charter School for Math & Science. He said he did this because the existing CCSD schools located downtown are either not available to most downtown students (Buist) or failing so badly that there is little hope for change in the near future. CCSD claims it is unable to adequately improve downtown schools or make them racially diverse, saying that the causes of poor schools downtown are beyond its control.

Pete has also said that, only after the charter school group became active, did CCSD finally begin to take an interest in advancing plans for the improvement of Burke's academic programs. All previous proposals for Burke were for goals assoicated with minimum standards [Note: precisely the phenomenon described by Kozol in other cities]. It was as if CCSD had no interest in Burke's success until it was challenged with the possibility of losing control to another charter school. This one would become an alternative for the relief of long-suffering downtown parents. Pete said he could support that.

What made this meeting with Pete Lawrence unusual is that Pete was given the impression he was being invited to meet one-on-one with Nelson Rivers to discuss his support for the downtown charter school. Nelson Rivers, a Charleston native, is a highly-respected national NAACP official who helped start the NAACP's North Charleston branch.

It was not to be that kind of meeting. When Pete Lawrence arrived, he found a full house. In addition to Nelson Rivers, it included Dot Scott, Joe Darby, and CCSD board members Hillery Douglas and Ruth Jordan. What was set up as a discussion between two individuals had morphed into a onfrontation with a crowd Lawrence had opposed before. Unknown to Pete until it was too late, the meeting had been arranged and specifically designed to pressure him into publicly recanting his support for new charter school. Nelson Rivers was simply there to "mediate." Pete had been ambushed.

Hillery Douglas reportedly got ugly, saying Pete had to change his position or else and accusing him of betraying the black community by not standing with those who opposed this charter school. What Pete Lawrence discovered was the desperation of these individuals, who all had been in some way responsible for the poor condition of downtown schools, for a downtown spokesman to carry their message of opposition to the community [Note: none of these individuals live downtown except Lawrence]. They were opposed to the racially diverse charter school group. They needed someone with a platform within the downtown black community to be their downtown mouthpiece. They decided that Pete was the one because he had dared speak in favor of the new school. They didn't care if forcing him to change his position meant continuing to cut the throats of downtown schools like Burke. In spite of the pressure, Pete did not back down.

Pete wouldn't cross over, leaving those present without a person with downtown credentials to carry their message. Hillery Douglas reportedly became very angry and began threatening Pete. Nelson Rivers had to physically come between them, according to the witness, or it might have gotten worse. Nelson Rivers, as it turns out, may not have been fully aware of the power play going on until after the meeting had begun.

The strong-arm tactics of Hillery Douglas are deplorable, but it is also highly questionable as to why he and Ruth Jordan, both members of the current Charleston County School Board, would choose to participate in a backroom, closed-door attempt to intimidate a downtown school advocate and private citizen, knowing that witnesses could go public. Without question they were trying to force Mr. Lawrence to change his public position. They wanted him to actively oppose a racially-diverse, community-based charter school group which was organized to create public school choices for downtown parents.




Both Douglas and Jordan have gone on record as supporting this charter school, but behind the scenes we find they are doing something else. By this account, they have misled the public about their support for the charter school as well as knowingly participated in what amounts to a politically motivated mugging.

Pete Lawrence, and other determined parents and residents of downtown Charleston like him, are continuously being pressured and in some cases threatened financially to not support the charter school. Others have been verbally abused and threatened by Hillery Douglas for speaking out for public schools downtown. Pete Lawrence has the courage and the good fortune to not be beholden to corrupt power brokers who have been willing to sell out downtown school children. Because he’s a man of integrity and has no financial ties to these bosses, he continues to speak his mind. Others downtown are not so fortunate. Most downtown parents and public school supporters are just glad that there are people like Pete Lawrence who have the ability to speak of ideas that most people downtown can only think or speak of privately.

Downtown schools, especially Burke High School, are fortunate that they are being defended by courageous and unbending supporters like Pete Lawrence against the assaults and neglect of Hillery Douglas and the rest, including Dot Scott, Joe Darby, and Ruth Jordan.

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

Again, thank you for printing the truth.

Anonymous said...

I recall hearing that Hillery Douglas shoved a man (in front of a child) at the Democratic Oyster Roast about a year ago. Classy.

Anonymous said...

I wish that person would have pressed charges. It's time we expose the members of our school board for who they really are.
How is your "shelter" going, Nancy? I mean, now that taxpayer dollars have gone to help it without OUR consent...we have a right to know, right???

Anonymous said...

We're lucky to have men like Arthur Lawerence on the peninsula.
Thank you!

Anonymous said...

Just in case the Rev. Nelson B. Rivers III has forgotten his history of public education in downtown Charleston, there hasn't been an all white public school on the peninsula in 44 years. All white schools ended all across the peninsula in the days immediately following Millicent Brown enrolling as a student at Rivers High School one late summer day in 1963. Rev. Rivers shouldn't worry, it's not likely that there will be an all white public school on the peninsula ever again...and if there ever is one, it certainly won't be this proposed charter high school. Despite what he claims, this prospect is fine with most of us.

All white, segregated schools will never happen...that is unless downtown Charleston becomes so expensive and unfriendly toward families with kids who still want to live on the peninsula. Unfortunately this is where our city government seems to be headed. Then only super rich non-minorities can afford to live downtown and no public schools would be left at all.

Sometimes I think we have too many "Reverends" involved in all of this and they are too caught up in listening for the sound of their own voice. I doubt Rev. Gallant from his seat on city council understands how this will hit his constituents any better than Rev. Rivers understands Charleston from his office in Baltimore.

Anonymous said...

As much as Rev. Rivers and Ms. Scott might not like to admit it, Sen. Ravenel is correct about one thing. In the early 1960's, District 20 and its 5 high schools and 10 elementary schools operating as an independent school district not yet part of CCSD were racially integrated. There were no all white schools from that point on. This was at least 7 years before the county schools were finally opened up to all students. CCSD can claim very little credit for promoting racial diversity in Charleston county schools, then or now. CCSD certainly couldn't be described as an innovative leader in this arena, either.

This "not on my watch" declaration by Nelson Rivers sounds like a dog in a manger scenario. Is he really standing in the school house door? What a role reversal! It’s as if to say "If we can't have it all, then you can't have even part of it."

Someone should ask Nelson Rivers where he stands on the gentrification part of this complicated issue as fair access to good schools is a critical part of the success or failure of inner cities. Does he realize the position he’s taking is forcing the acceleration of gentrification? Ironically good charter schools, including the proponents here, present one of the best defenses against the negative effects of urban gentrification by helping to hold the ground and the stabilizing institutions like public schools for the people who haven't been forced out yet. If Nelson Rivers doesn't understand this, then maybe his seminary should think hard about including a good course in modern economics for aspiring inner city preachers.

Anonymous said...

“We're not going to allow [it]…not in the peninsula, not in this century. Not on our watch," said NAACP leader Nelson Rivers yesterday as he condemned a racially diverse charter school group’s plans to reopen the now vacant Rivers school as a math & science oriented public school accessible to all. As a district run middle school the campus had become totally segregated by the time it was shut down by county school officials in 2005 as a failed school.

It looks like Nelson Rivers and Dot Scott want the segregated and failing schools downtown to stay the same as they have been for a long time. As it’s sometimes said as we grow older, in the most awkward moments we sometimes see that we have become our parents. I just didn’t realize who Nelson’s and Dot’s daddy really was.

“I draw the line in the dust …. I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!” -- from the first inaugural address of George Wallace as Governor of Alabama in 1963.

Nice going, Nelson. You really should have met with the charter group first before you bought everything Dot told you.

Anonymous said...

Where was the NAACP when Dr. Goodloe forced Rivers to close and filled parents with lies about an "Academic Plus program" at Burke? Where was Mr. Rivers when we had no hot water in the Rhett building's "cafeteria" for our Rivers' Middle school students?

Anonymous said...

"Regardless of whether the decision to move.....was good, bad, or indifferent, the District does not appear to be living up to the responsibility of managing the change. The transition will be tremendously complicated - logistically, academically, and emotionally - and the District needs to put more people on the job to address all of these aspects."

As we all know now the downtown parents' questions were ignored, the local NAACP didn't raise any concerns and ultimately MGJ didn't provide the extra care needed to avoid the mistakes that eventually did happen during the Rivers to Burke merger.

Though the above quote could just as well have applied to the failure to provide adequate resources for the closing down one at risk school and moving its 100% minority student population to another at risk minority school, it wasn't about that at all. Instead it was posted yesterday on the saveseattleschools blog.

The more things change, the more they remain the same. Maybe the Seattle NAACP is looking the other way, too.

Anonymous said...

People need to think about every election including the November 6th too.

Charleston has had the same mayor for 32 years and look at the shape of the schools. Joe Riley claims this is not his area but every time he still gets involved via the backdoor. Rumor on the street is he is in favor of the charter school being charged rent at Rivers. The charter school is a public school going into a public school building. Our grandparents paid for Rivers over 70 years ago we should not have to pay twice.

Look at Mt. Pleasant their mayor got involved and their schools are doing great. Time for a change make your vote count this November.

Anonymous said...

Oh, yes, Joe Riley is very much involved. He endorsed Toya Green as the token representative from downtown. Hizzoner used his office to throw the weight of City Hall behind her campaign last year even though she lacks any measurable committment to city schools. The Mayor regularly communicates with the Superintendent and he strongly backs the status quo at Buist with so many of his political supporters depending on it.

His latest letter to the county school board members (arrived today) tells them in the strongest of terms that they should uphold a racial & income quotas for the charter school...in order to "guarantee" its "diversity". The charter school has already said it would comply with state laws. The charter school supporters know very well that the new school's academic success is the best guarantee for having a strong sign up list in order to guarantee a diverse mix of students. What CCSD is doing is not only unnecessary, it's misleading and very likely illegal, and they know it.

Why is Riley trying to abrogate the state law which is about as clear as you can get on this issue? James Island Charter HS and Orange Grove ES both have met and exceeded the state's minimum requirements. Those are the models for the new math & science charter school. No models are better.

What is interesting is that neither Buist Academy nor any of the other struggling start up charter schools (incl. Gregg Mathis and Sea Island Youth Build) have meet even minimum state diversity targets that apply to charter schools. So why hasn't anyone said anything about these non-compliant schools. They continue to be approved by CCSD without the slightest comment about their racial and economic lopsidedness? Why not place the same illegal requirements on existing schools like Buist Academy before trying to invent new road blocks for a charter school that CCSD really doesn't want in the first place?

This sounds like the Mississippi Election Commission in 1960, before they outlawed literacy tests for voters as a way to keep blacks off the voter rolls. When an educated non-white tried to register, they would require that the applicant read the US Constitution's preamble. Then interpret it, then read it in Latin...and if they could, then in Chinese...before allowing them to register to vote. Of course the rules were set in order to keep even the most qualified from being registered to vote. This is almost the same. It's obstructionist and illegal.

Now Joe Riley's standing in the School House door. Someone should call Nightline again. This would make a good story. Look who's starting to appear and sound just like George Wallace! Have these people forgotten what Rev. King said and did for us all?

Look, the new math & science charter school is set to out shine CCSD on every level, including equitable access regardless of race and family income. For its own facesaving reasons CCSD can't afford to let that happen. The Mayor is doing his part to cover their a$$, and possilby his own, too.

Anonymous said...

We're tired of failing city schools, Joe, and we ain't gonna wait no more! Time's up. Step aside please, Your Honor. This freedom train is moving on. It's got passengers waiting and a promised schedule to keep.

There's plenty of room on board this line so quit yappin' about reserved seating. Sounds like you've got this train confused with the Buist Limited.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 3:53 PM:

Yes, Hillery Douglas shoved and cursed Henry Copeland. And Maria Goodloe-Johnson banned him from the CCSD schools. And CCSD's almost consultant Jerome Heyward shoved Gilda Cobb-Hunter. So it goes.

Anonymous said...

who was banned from CCSD schools?

Anonymous said...

Goodloe-Johnson used a standard letter more than once that CCSD's lawyer drafted designed strictly to intimidate anyone they wanted to eliminate. They even attempted to say it was a "no trespass order"...but it was nothing more than a threatening legal sounding letter on CCSD letterhead designed to intimidate anyone on their “enemies” list who they wanted to single out, isolate or paint as a whacko, with or without evidence.

Normal people go to a school's office first when they go on school property for official business anyway, so to order someone to do that in a letter is kind of pointless...unless the purpose is to just rattle someone's cage. If on the other hand the Superintendent or CCSD’s lawyer really felt someone was a threat to order and safety within the schools, the proper thing would be to seek a restraining order in a court of law supported with documented evidence. Anything less would be irresponsible.

Goodloe-Johnson and CCSD’s legal counsel didn’t bother with such niceties. A boiler plated, pit bull letter would suffice for their purposes. Some people in life see their job as winner-take-all with no opponent left standing. Goodloe-Johnson and CCSD's legal counsel appears to be in this kind of confrontational camp. This might work on Wall Street but is not exactly a great example of good moral leadership in an educational setting.

Anonymous said...

This is a copy of County School Board Chairman Nancy Cook's response related to the complaint against Vice-Chairman Hillery Douglas. It was sent and dated January 5, 2007. This is the only known comment Nancy Cook has ever made about this incident involving Hillery Douglas. Ms. Cook's response is quoted in its entirety.

"Mr. Copeland
Thank you for the email and I will have a conversation with Mr. Douglas regarding the incident you referenced in your email. Yes, I have been meeting frequently with Marvin for well over a year--it's been very productive. And no, I do not recall suggesting to cancel any meeting after learning Pam and you were going to attend. I'm convinced that we can never communicate enough. From my point of view, all of this is about public education and doing what's right for children regardless of where they live. We all have to work together if we cannot then I believe in the end the children are the ones who loses
Nancy Cook"

Anonymous said...

Once again, we have a superintendent who is simply changing the CCSD logo and making "learning Communities" out of our districts. None of this will/can improve education.

I also think every time Crook uses the it's "for the children", she should be fined. She literally went into a school one time and when the secretary didn't recognize her said, "Don't you know who I am?" Come on, who cares.
BTW where are the Brisbins and Brandenberg? I guess they couldn't take the truth and excused themselves.

One thing only will fix this mess. Give the teacher back her classroom, stop ham stringing her authority.

Anonymous said...

Come on. How much data do these people need to drive their data driven programs? It's simple. Failing schools have a faculty and administrative staff that have been in place, on average, for as little as 3 years or less. Non-failing schools have professional staff that has been in place, on average, much more than 7 years. Experience and continuity is what makes for "successful learning communities", not musical chairs and annual experiments motivated by trial and error. McGinley is loosing public confidence with each new announcement like this one made after the fact.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 2:49 PM:

Are you serious? This is all Ms. Cook had to say?

How did Mr. Copeland respond? And did Mr. Douglas admit his mistake?

Can anyone say "anger mangement?"

Anonymous said...

Wow, I'm just catching up with the postings. You have made some really insightful comments here.
Thank you to Babbie and her posters!

Anonymous said...

I thought Alice Paylor represented CCSD. Shouldn't she be the one responding to Mr. Copeland and not Ms. Cook? Did a member of her firm draft the "standard letter... designed strictly to intimidate anyone they wanted to eliminate?" Does this letter actually exist? Has anyone seen it?

I thought Ms. Paylor was Ms. Cook's attorney regarding an ethics complaint? Doesn't that pose a problem if there are future disputes between her and the CCSD Board?

Where is Sandi when you need her?

Anonymous said...

All Nancy tried to do was move Buist to Rivers in her "productive" meetings with Mr. Stewart. I was present at the Dist.20 board meeting when that came to light. It was on the news, remember?
Now, how would THAT have gone over with the NAACP, Nancy??

Anonymous said...

babbie for mayor:

The e-mail addresses of CCSD School Board Members can be obtained at: http://www.charlestongop.org/School%20Board.htm. Or try:

Ms. Nancy Cook, Chair
Email: ncookchas@aol.com

Ms Ruth Jordan
Email: rjordan@hamptongreenllc.com

Mr. Gregg Meyers
Email: attygm@aol.com

Mr. David Engelman, Vice Chair
Email: davidaengelman@aol.com

Mr. Brian Moody
Email: Bmoody@ggmcpa.com

Mr. Raymond Toler
Email: raytoler@att.net

Ms. Toya Hampton Green
Email: toya@hamptongreenllc.com

Mr. Copeland's e-mail address as published in the Charleston City Paper is hdescopeland@hotmail.com.

I suggest that if you want the answers to questions that you ask the School Board.

Anonymous said...

To the last poster.. I think you made a little boo boo, you have Ruth Jordon at Toya's email address. But, don't worry she won't respond anyway. She prides herself on not returning phone calls, other than Dot Scott's or emails.

I am right here, have been all along giving background moral support to you guys and kudos for being brave enough to write when you know Gregg and Butzon will critque your writing.

We are very fortunate that Babbie was strong enough to design this blog so when our frustration level rises, we can write here about it.

I wish the District 20 parents great success in their law suit. It is over due. Funny thing the "leadership" always says, "We need to fix our schools", but, for some reason they don't include District 20 students. There are some great kids there but they are being robbed of an opportunity for a good education.

The Charter School will be great but they still have a tough road ahead negotiating their contract with the district.

To all, thanks for your support in the past. It meant a lot ot me. I miss seeing you guys but not being part of this continued quagmire.

"For the kids" is just a cliche to some of those folks. I always laughed when one of them used that phrase because that was the farthest thing from the truth. The truth was how can I get my share. All these new positions created could have put several teachers in the classroom, but, this leadership, like the old will continue to load up on administrative positions which do absolutely nothing to fix education.

Take care all of you and stay strong. You are fighting a new battle but with the same players.

Sandi

Anonymous said...

Sandi:

I obtained Ruth Jordan's e-mail address from http://www.charlestongop.org/School%20Board.htm.

BTW, given how your e-mails were shared with the world at large, Ie would like to know whether some of Ms. Cook's e-mails are availble. I particularly would like to see her explain her position on replenishment of the Lawrence Derthick Jr. Memorial Trust.

It seems to me that the folks who received the overpayment should return the monies and reapply. Then the CCSD can keep its money and--here's a thought--use it to educate children.

Babbie said...

Henry Copeland has requested that, in order to avoid references to others not involved, the following be posted instead of an original comment (anonymous at 2:03) to which many have had further reactions:

The following is taken from a letter from Henry Copeland that has been circulating. It has been redacted to exclude any personal references to anyone other than Mr. Douglas and Ms. Cook. Part of the message is as follows:

...I've learned that someone has made public some of the details of an incident that occurred between Hillery Douglas and me last year. I thought you and some others may need to know exactly what transpired. This is also being sent to you because the issue of threats and intimidation by Hillery Douglas toward another downtown resident (and possibly others) has come up again. I've decided to make public part of a letter I sent to Nancy Cook about similar assaults, including the one made by Hillery Douglas against me last November. His behavior appears to be part of a continuing pattern of intimidation.

Since the text which follows was part of official correspondence between a constituent board member and the Chairman of the county school board, its content is probably considered a matter of public record anyway. This message is [public] to do with as you please as long as it's applied [I would hope] in the interest of improving our public schools and its related leadership. ... As of my resignation as a member of the constituent board I'm no longer involved in the affairs of local public schools. This does not preclude the fact that [any member of the District 20 Constituent Board] may call me if [they] have any questions about the attached partial letter to Nancy Cook [that was] sent [by me on] January 4, 2007, or about anything else for that matter.

Consideration of these and other actions by county board members as they attempted to impede [the District 20 Board] in our duties were not far from my thoughts last March when I formally resigned my seat on the District 20 Board. ... [It is] only fair that [the public] should be fully informed on what my experience has been with Mr. Douglas. This is particularly true as this newest incident has been made public in which Mr. Douglas reportedly threatened another downtown resident.

Thanks again [to everyone for their] service to our city schools.

The following is a partial text taken from an e-mail message addressed to Nancy Cook, dated January 4, 2007.

".... Finally, on a related subject, I feel compelled to inform you of a very unfortunate situation which occurred last November involving a member of the county school board. At a publicly sponsored social event and in front of numerous others, I was verbally and physically assaulted by Mr. Douglas, currently the vice-chairman of the county school board. Mr. Douglas cursed me with obscene language and made threats that were directed toward me in a loud voice. Mr. Douglas pressed his hand into my chest and pushed me backwards while apparently attempting to make a point in a very pugnacious manner. The incident occurred during the GOTV Rally held at the Visitor's Center on November 1 which was open to the public and which had attracted a large crowd including families with young children.

"What had started, or at least as it initially appeared to me, as a cordial and polite conversation at a food service table between Mr. Douglas and me concluded when his tone suddenly changed to one that was argumentative and confrontational. This was quickly followed by a verbal and physical assault from Mr. Douglas directed against me. In front of a large crowd he began shouting at me and making threatening gestures. Considering this to be an unprovoked display of uncivilized behavior followed by threatening actions as demonstrated by someone whom I do not know, I might have simply ignored it and moved away from the area. This is in fact exactly what I did.

"Mr. Douglas is, however, a public official with whom I am required to interact both in public and in some not so public settings. It should be noted also on this occasion and in a very public place, Mr. Douglas appeared to act without regard for others in the vicinity. It also appeared to me that most of those who witnessed it, including several children, were noticeably shocked, even fearful of what might follow what can only be described as a tirade spouting from Mr. Douglas.

"I later discussed this incident with others who were present and again with others who were not. The general opinion was that this was a serious transgression on the part of a member of the county school board which might be repeated by Mr. Douglas against someone else. At the suggestion of this counsel I considered filing a complaint against Mr. Douglas with local law enforcement authorities. In the interest of not adding further pressure to an already strained relationship that has existed for some time between our two boards, I chose not to take any immediate action. I also had to consider the fact that Mr. Douglas continues to exert great influence over matters of major importance to District 20. I concluded that it would not be in the best interests of District 20 to take any action that would divert attention away from our school's concerns in District 20.

"I have no interest in engaging in a personal dispute with Mr. Douglas. I also have no interest in his business other than as it relates to the position of public trust which he currently holds over our public schools. It is this fact that I consider heavily as I relay this information to you. I must say that I have since heard that he has been accused of possibly having acted or spoken against others recently, so I feel that it is necessary to pass this information on to you. As the Chairman of the County School Board it is my hope that you will share my desire that reason and civil courtesy will prevail as we seek to resolve our school related issues, particularly those relating to District 20.

"I hope that this individual will work to improve his relations with every constituent, including me. I would be greatly disappointed if he were to continue to demonstrate such poor behavior. He should not be permitted to interfere with anyone who is representing constituent interests or attempting to lawfully conduct District 20 related business. I have shared these concerns with others. Because of the recent history of events involving Mr. Douglas, it is of particular interest to me that such incidents not be allowed to occur during the course of county school board meetings or business tangent to District 20 issues. As we attempt to represent the interests of District 20 to the best of our abilities, this added level of intimidation would not be appreciated."

… The original letter was further redacted to exclude its closing comments which relate to other matters not relevant to the incident involving Mr. Douglas.

Anonymous said...

Now, could we see the response of Hillery Douglas to Mr. Copeland?

Anonymous said...

There has never been a response from Mr. Douglas.

Anonymous said...

And there probably never will be. Mr. Douglas is rude and demeaning, especially to women. I've experienced it first hand. Yet, he'll never look in the mirror and actually admit fault in his actions.

Anonymous said...

Toya Green is at the McNair law firm now and yes I too have seen Hillery Douglas be really rude to women in particular.

Anonymous said...

Surely Mr. Douglas made some sort of response. And I am betting that Sandi and David have e-mails from Cook and Douglas that shed some light on what really happens on the Board behind the scene.

BTW, does anyone know anything about the rumor that Terrye Seckinger and her brother Chip Campsen have helped Uncle Arthur convicne the rest of the CCSD Board to drop the rent for the proposed Math and Science School at Rivers? And what about the rumor that Alice Paylor is no longer going to be the CCSD's attorney because she has so many conflicts and because she botches so many cases?

Personally, I think Paylor will stay as long as Joe wants her to stay. Remember, he owes her for voting yo allow the variance for his lot on Sullivan's Island.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 400:

Terrye Seckinger, member of the South Carolina Charter Schools Board who has previously served as a member of the State Board of Education, and her bother Chip Campsen oppose the idea of the Math and Science Charter School having to pay rent. And http://www.charleston.net/news/2007/oct/20/opinion_favors_charter_school_supporters19695/#comments seems to suggest that at least some of the "rumors" are true. Oh, if only Alice Paylor was really on the way out and we did not have to suffer he insults.

Anonymous said...

I meant to write "her insults."

I try to use correct grammar. And use of profanity is not accepted practice in my home, dispite what Ms. Paylor may think.

Anonymous said...

As they say, "All politics is local." You can't get much more local or more personal than school politics when so much on a personal level is at stake. Forget the political labels, the color of their face or the personal bank balances. What should measure these people is where they stand on the issue at hand. I don't share Terrye or Chip's politics, but if they support neighborhood schools under local control (including charter schools) then I'm with them on that. But I'd like to know where Dot Scott's coming from when she says charter schools are bad, school choice is bad, that downtown Blacks who support parent driven school alternatives are bad...yet she helps pay the tuition for her grandchild who's on a partial scholarship at a local PRIVATE school. Where does she get off having choices like that available to her but she tries to LIMIT educational opportunities for others?